Toyota recall

[SWARTZAUTOMAN]

so ive been seeing allot of people (the daily show for 1) talkin crap about Toyotas recall involving the gas pedal

its a load of crap how they are talkin trash
i didnt see them thalin trash when Ford of Chevy was doing bigger massive wide spread recalls for more serious issues like break hubs locking up and causing the wheel to fall off or electrical issues causing engine fires

i think ill take my chances with a sticky gas pedal
thats just my 2 cents

[EdwardJTurkowII]

Hey if all of a sudden your gas pedal stuck, what would you do? I'd probably either hit the brakes or turn the car off... It's a flippin stuck gas pedal for crying out loud... no reason to NOT buy Toyota anymore! I saw a woman, on Fox new though, say how they wouldn't give her a loaner car while her pedal was fixed so she's suing that individual dealership, and now she's never going to buy Toyota again! Whatever, it's not my fault Imports are better!

[timmiz_roxxxz]

let's not forget about ford and firestone tires... cars and trucks were rolling over....

[EdwardJTurkowII]

I totally forgot about that fire stone incident!

[SWARTZAUTOMAN]

the pedal problem is a 30 min. fix so why would the lady need a loner.
and thats the dealer not Toyota.


i think the ford/firestone issue was more people not knowing how to drive.
ive had some were around 6 to 7 blowouts in my life all at highway speeds and never rolled.
also the explorer is an easier vehicle to roll.

im still trying to find my consumer reports mag, its got all the recall info in the back.
some scary stuff with a huge # of vehicle involved.

Toyota has never had a recall (to my knowledge) any were close to this big, but its common practice for meny other auto makers and you all most never here the news talking about it.

[EdwardJTurkowII]

Yeah, Toyota I think had a few but nothing ever big, just like a gas pedal... no biggie.

My mom's 2004 Hyundai Sonata was just recalled due to some frame malfunction. I guess in the colder climates they found parts of the frame rust out quicker due to the salt they put on the roads. So they recalled the cars to all dealers to inspect the problem. I guess on the cars that are affected, they put a support beam of some sort on it and spray it down with an anti corrosion material. If it were me, I'd just buy a newer car then worrying about a frame busting on me!

People are quick to judge Toyota because of this recall, and others using it as ammo saying "its the biggest recall in Toyota history." I say well sure it is, especially when Toyota has hardly EVER had a recall period, any number would be its biggest.

[SWARTZAUTOMAN]

(02-04-2010 09:40 AM)EdwardJTurkowII Wrote:  "its the biggest recall in Toyota history." I say well sure it is, especially when Toyota has hardly EVER had a recall period, any number would be its biggest.

hahaha
right

[SNOWJOB]

Toyota has generally been known for making a good-quality automobile, but it seems like recently they've had a fair amount of quality issues.

Like Swartz said, the accelerator pedal is a 30 minute job (I think just a shim), but now they're taking about brake problems on the Prius, and the Tacomas have had problems with the frames rotting out. Apparently some of the older Tacomas have BROKEN IN HALF when you put them up on a lift. Thankfully Toyota stepped up and offered to buy the trucks back.

I've had my xB for almost 48,000 miles and so far, it has been great. The only thing that worries me about this car is the water pump and synchro (MT) issues that other 08+ xB drivers have been having. I have no intentions of getting rid of this car any time soon, and I hope that it remains reliable. However, I feel that Toyota has had more than its share of big recalls lately, and if they have any more big recalls, that would be enough for me to not consider Toyota as a replacement car.

[SWARTZAUTOMAN]

ok i found me Consumer Reports mag (2007)

Ford recalled
#1 3.8 million 94-02 Ford & Lincoin sport-utilty vehicles & pickups for "automatic speed-control switch could overheat and cause engine compartment fire"
#2 1.4 million 01 Ford Lincoin & Mercury vehicles for "front safety belts may not provide adequate protection in a crash
#3 186,200 99-00 Ford Contour, Mystique & Cougar for "rear wheel could lockup during braking, effecting steering ability & increasing risk of crash
#4 845,000 98-99 Explorer & Mountaineer for "hood could suddenly fly open"

Ford had a total of 13 recalls totaling 10,286,846 cars and trucks

Chevy (not including GMC, Buick, Cadillac, Olds, or Pontiac) had 14 recalls totaling 6,706,640 cars and truck

Toyota (just to be fair, these are from the same time line) had 4 recalls totaling 947,285

i think ill stick with Toyota for now

[Peej]

It's funny how quick people are to jump on a bandwagon over something like this. I'm sure most of you guys aren't old enough to remember the 1966 GM recall of passenger cars and light trucks regarding throttles that don't just get stuck, they went WIDE OPEN!
There was a problem with the drivers side motor mount and if it failed, the engine would drop on the left side when you let off the throttle. Because the throttle linkage was completely mechanical, once the engine dropped the throttle rod would rotate the throttle plate wide open. Keep in mind that these were 3500lb+ vehicles equipped with 200+ HP engines....they were not easy to stop once the engine got going.
My personal opinion is that any throttle mechanism that is "drive by wire" is just begging for problems and is a BAD idea. There are 3 critical systems that should NEVER be controlled soley by electrical servos....Steering, Throttle and Brakes.
While currently the common one is the throttle, you'll eventually see the mechanical links taken out of the steering and brakes.

The other thing that most people don't realize is that regardless of the product, if it's manufactured there are going to be problems. You can NEVER make a manufactured product 100% free of defects. Assembly people not properly trained or paying attention, assembly machines falling out of tolerance or just bad raw material all contribute to product failure.

[SWARTZAUTOMAN]

(02-05-2010 07:32 AM)Peej Wrote:  The other thing that most people don't realize is that regardless of the product, if it's manufactured there are going to be problems. You can NEVER make a manufactured product 100% free of defects.

thats the very next thing i was going to say, you beat me to it

even more so with something as complex as a car

[SWARTZAUTOMAN]

ok so now we got this retard lawyer saying crap like toyota tried to cover up crash test be doing them over
toyota doesn't do the crash tests Insurance Institute for Highway Safety does

please!

id still trust a toyota over anything built here in the US

here is a ford focus crash test


and here is the xb crash test


ill take my chances with toyota

[SWARTZAUTOMAN]

so any new info that anyone has herd

ive gottten blasted on a few of my own youtube videos from people calling me names and saying my POS Scion is next, that Toyota need to go down in fire.
these people (the ones blasting my vids) have a very low IQ and are just spreading dumb rumors and calling names, they don't have anything real to say, just trying to start crap.
i have engaged them on as intelligent level as i can and have tried not to stoop to there level, but its starting to make me mad
one guy.............. i looked at his vids and hes got a mid 90s 4 banger ranger (burnout vid) talking about the truck needing 2k worth of work and that if he could find a steady job he would get it fixed or trade it for something newer, oh ..... and his belly was touching the steering wheel.
i was like "your an unemployed fat ass and your pickin on my trophy winning show car"
WTF!
he even went as far as to say he would get in my face if he saw me in person
who are these people?
personally i just deleted his comments off my vids and blocked him so he can't make more
but i keep getting different people, thats whats gettin to me

[SWARTZAUTOMAN]

you guys see this most recent Prius dork was found to be a lier

[Peej]

Yep...and there's some lady as well.....sheesh